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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9405812

“We are going to do something that I will say is slightly controversial but it shouldn’t be. We are going to indemnify policemen and precincts and states and cities from being sued. We want them to do their job. Our police and law enforcement has to come back and they want to come back and they want to do their job. And we are going to indemnify them so they don’t lose their wife, their family, their pension, and their job. We are going to indemnify policemen and law enforcement. We are going to tell them to get out, we love you, do your job.” – Trump, speaking last night at the New York Young Republicans Club gala.

Trump going after the tyrant vote.

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Motherfucker wants a police state, but one he and his buddies are totally not accountable in, fuck this geriatric wannabe dictator.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Of all the 60+ million people who intend to vote for him next year, this ridiculous rhwtoric will dissuade exactly none of them.

Meanwhile the left needs to be cajoled and won over and made to feel special just to get them to the fucking polling station.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (5 children)

BuT BiDeN nEeDs To EaRn My VoTe!

If we manage to avoid a fascist takeover, it will be in spite of the naive progressive idealogues who think they have the privilege to vote their conscience.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (17 children)

It's the political reality that you need the votes of people to your left who you hate. Get to it.

I'm already voting for Biden. You'll scream at me anyway because you don't want to treat voters you need as though you need their votes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

people to your left who you hate

I don't hate them. I said certain ones are naive (aggravatingly so, to clarify further). Too many people talk and act as if they can choose this time and keep that ability to choose next time.

If you have the sense to see what you stand to lose in this dumb FPTP system, then we are in the same boat. I understand the desire to have your elected leaders actually do something progressive, or doing something that makes you truly proud of them.

But as someone said, voting is a chess move, not a love letter.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (22 children)

I don’t hate them. I said certain ones are naive (aggravatingly so, to clarify further). Too many people talk and act as if they can choose this time and keep that ability to choose next time.

in the time that I've been voting... the US has only slid right. The democrats have done exceedingly little to halt that.

Rear guard delaying actions, to use the military parlance, do not win wars. Biden is moderate only in consideration that the GOP are so much further to the right as to actively embrace fascism. We cannot keep acting as we always have and expect something to magically fix itself. So now is the time to start changing how we vote and the people we send to be voted for.

it's really that simple.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Get better messaging, then. Screaming at them ain't gonna work.

Scream at me for pointing it out. It beats trying to get votes.

(I'm voting for Biden. "Not Trump" has convinced me. It won't convince all the voters you'll need to win, and you'd rather lose than stop punching left.)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's easy, the Right are fanatics doing fanatic things, the Left haven't had something to be "fanatical" about since Obama, Biden has done a great job for the most part, obviously with some disappointment here and there, no presidency is perfect, but Old man Biden just doesn't excite people, and it's only Trump keeping him running, if Don the Con would go to prison and stop running we'd be able to hopefully elect somebody under 60, and most of those Republican candidates are just as scary as Trump, and bless Chris Christie and Liz Chaney for finally committing political suicide by fighting against the fascism in their party, especially after enabling it for so long.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I love how the man continues to give reasons to not vote for him every time his mouth opens.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (3 children)

And yet millions of people still want to vote for him! It's baffling!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (6 children)

That's because they think it'll only apply to "those other people" that they don't like. For example, with police brutality, the white, straight, Christian right thinks the police will only beat "black thugs" so it's perfectly fine in their book.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Guarantee Trump learned the word "indemnify" right before that speech.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Just wait until he learns about qualified immunity.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago

"we're gonna get all of the cops nice new uniforms and badges, cool badges with skulls on them, and we'll teach them all to march around the streets and round up all the undesirables!"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

How about the capitol police who responded to the January 6th riot? Did he even think the whole statement through?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Did he even think the whole statement through?

Come on man, you know the answer to that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, doesn't count. Seen all the twisting they've had to pull to not admit the cops weren't on their side? They were anitfa, FBI plants, whateverthefuck. The one thing the capitol police were not, were a bunch of cops doing their job. Because that don't fit the narrative.

Look at 'em go after the guy that shot Traitor Barbie through the neck. Somehow that was not a legitimate use of force against a mob trying to kill our Congresspeople?!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

NoOo It'S tHe DeMoCrAtS tHaT aRe ThE fAsCiStS!

/wrist

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This would be setting fire to the first amendment.

Besides freedom of speech, of and from religion, the 1st recognizes our right to get redress from the government for grievance.

The government CAN NOT do whatever they want to us. That rule has been there the whole fucking time.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Trump continued:

"And so we can distinguish our brave police who have taken up our indemnification, we've designed a new uniform for them. They will have brown shirts and ties. i like brown, you like brown, everybody loves brown. And we will want a really good name, the best name for our brave Brownshirts. I was thinking something like the Storm Division. What do you think, isn't that the greatest? I think it's the greatest."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but some pepple dont like division because it divides people. i dont agree but some say this. maybe it can be a team or a squad, like squad cars or storm squad. they can have a cool storm logo with a lightening bolt and use S S for super sexy, because thats what they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Only if it uses the cool S

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (12 children)

There's a lot to unpack in this statement, but the short of it is that he's thinking like a terrorist- that the role of police is to instill fear and the thing keeping them from fulfilling it is that they fear being sued. He's telling his supporters that he wants cops to do crimes with impunity

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

Trump and his supporters are so gross.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Alright, so, real talk, this is an appeal directly to the people in police work who are in it for the authority (spoiler: too many, unfortunately), as well as to the asset owning class that depends on the police to keep them from losing their investments or worse. The message being sent is: vote for me, work for me, and you'll be free from accountability.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This nazi fuck needs to be thrown in prison.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Stupid people really do think of the stupidest solutions to problems that don't exist.

The hard thing is hearing it over and over and over again. How many times has this shit already been tried? What was the result? Oh, you don't know? Does that not strike you as phenomenally negligent of a policy maker, to not be aware of the likely results of your fucking actions? Go die, you orange piece of shit. Or win, and take this fucking irreparable democracy with you.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Embracing authoritarianism to own the libs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Nah, that's something they'll do just because they love it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Criminal wants more police brutality. Idiots set to vote for Criminal come november.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Someone should explain qualified immunity to this chucklefuck. What's next, he gonna tell us he would fight a war with no rules so he would win every time?

How brain dead do you have to be to even listen to his ravings let alone follow him and think he is a leader.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's one thing to claim police brutality isn't that big of an issue. Still wrong, but not uncommon.

It's another thing entirely to somehow be pro-police brutality.

What the fuck?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is just the alt-right with masks off.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

That’ll get him a few more votes from the fence sitting fascists.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Funny how the " law and order group ", doesn't give a damn about the constitution.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

A promise to indemnify from an individual who is famous for not paying their bills... awesome!!! /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I'm not really sure what liberals are all concerned about. Don't they have any faith that they can simply "fix" this inherently fascist institution - oops, sorry, I meant to say "law enforcement" - through "reform" and more "training?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait, is he actually trying to say everything the opposite of what the majority of US citizens want? Like maybe he's actually trying to not win because he doesn't want to be president again. Or this is all a joke to see how evil he can be and still win.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

The opposite of what the majority of US citizens want is often exactly what Republican likely voters want and this is no exception. They want every cop to be Judge Dredd, only more bigoted.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Give me a bottle of CA glue and five minutes of 'private time' with this blowhard.

Problem solved.

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