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If you are obsessed with The White Race and view women as objects, white women are the ultimate commodity.

They're just people

That's what I like to think when it comes to these kinds of matters, but so many people needlessly and toxically make a huge deal out of race when it comes to dating, even though there are many reasonable people who literally just don't give a shit about race in their partners.

As someone in an interracial relationship consisting of me, a black transfem enby, and a white cis woman, there is this common tendency to make race such a big deal in the context of romantic relationships to a point where interracial couples are practically always, in the eyes of somebody, interpreted as some kind of special trope with some underlying dynamic.

On one hand, I understand on some level why POC might get a little iffy if their child starts dating a white person because sometimes those awful dynamics, such as internalized racism, fetishism, etc., do exist in interracial relationships. For most POC who have these qualms about interracial couples, I find that it's not typically rooted in the anti-race-mixing, "genetic purity" fash kinda thought but rather legitimate concerns about oppressive mentalities.

However, the hasty assumption that any interracial couple you see inherently has something problematic going on is really fucking frustrating for me. I have gotten people who would say things built on the assumption that I care about race in my partners, such as "You must not like dating black people, "White women must click best with you," "What race do you prefer to date?" and it's like STOP.

Me and my partner, alongside any other non-black person I've dated, are two people in a relationship, and that's it. We happen to be of different races, yes, but some people I've dated are left-handed, whereas I'm right-handed. Are we going to go crazy over that now too?

racism

Because historically TV, beauty marketers and white supremacist culture in general imply those are the only kind of women worth pursuing

Incels are led around by their easily manipulated emotions and many of them are also racists, so most of them regardless of race develop a dehumanized hypersexual fixation on white women as status symbols

Because the Venn diagram of incels and Nazis is just a circle.

Pretty sure Elliot was a racist, and hated that he was like half-asian. He wasn't even that ugly he was just too much of a weirdo idiot and had a huge ego, to date women.

Are they still obsessing over protecting white women? Last I heard from groypers they were on that kill all women shit.

White people in general are highly coveted around the world. Colonization and the mass export of Western media plays a big part in this.

Because most people in the West are white supremacists, especially incels

Attainment of women is more about status to them than even sexual gratification. White women are the most universally accepted status symbol.

the conditions of their lives and their social inputs, both produced by capitalist forces, leads them to ideologically pursue particular notions of gender and sex that are contingent upon enacting violence, objectification, and ownership on women in general and white women in particular. the particular objectification of european women under capitalism has been explored by silvia federici in her seminal text Caliban and the Witch. the general objectification of women globally and panhistorically is a prominent feature of david graeber's Debt. in particular, there's a common thread of violent social relations and a notion of ownership that is pervasive in especially traditional and historic western notions of family and the law. the point though is simple: assert social control through violence, the flavor of which is a negotiation with history.

White women are just as beautiful and worthy of worship as any other women

Assuming most incels are white, incels, an extremely right-wing group of folks see nothing but utter contempt for relationships with people of different races. Even Asians are only conditionally tolerated because "your cartoons amuse the great white man, peasant-race!"

personally I think if any woman (white, black, latina, etc) had let Elliot Rodger hit, he probably would've turned out normal lmao but unfortunately he gave off terrible vibes so I can't blame all the women he was surrounded by for not letting him hit and his parents were pretty shit "son I've asked my friend, the guy who wrote My Cousin Vinny, to correspond with you via email about picking up women" ?????

They're Nazis, op

White supremacy and misogyny are part of the same reactionary circles and feed into one another in many different ways. Sometimes it is just as simple as rejecting all ideas of social progress and thereby embracing your new ingroup more thoroughly. Though these groups are not self-consistent, so you eventually reach absurdities. For example, that guy had some east Asian heritage that would have excluded him from ever being truly accepted in the circles he coveted.

The specific details and paths can vary, though. I knew a woman whose family heritage was basically half French and half Chinese (she was herself American). Within the family, there was a ton of white supremacy that favored the French half and looked down on the Chinese half and this peemeated her upbringing. She felt shame at anything that made her feel Chinese in any way and exclusively dated white guys (though she never stated she had a rule about this). So even though this aligns pretty well with my generalizations, in her case there were very specific fucked up family dynamics and her upbringing to blame.

This is the usual way things are, really. The larger social forces echo down through our immediate personal relations, how we are raised, who we interact with, what media we are exposed to, etc, and it is possible to miss that forest for the trees.