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do me proud nyc jury pool

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago

Luigi has the right to defend himself

[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

C-class is a protected suit now? Because I only feel financially terrorized by the healthcare industry. It is so systemic and prevalant people are afraid to go see a doctor over anything until it becomes catastrophic, and even then it's "please for the love of all do not involve and ambulance".

Americans are terrorized by the thought of the massive debt for just the ride to the hospitals and basic stabilization - more so than their disloged limbs and bleeding out from a car crash.

Personal medical piss off this last week -

Husband burnt himself on hot coffee at work going to his car to take his break. 2 2nd degree blisters. One about 4 inches. I pleaded with him to 1- tell his job for workmans comp or at least 2 - we have insurance go see urgent care and have a doctor look at it and get an opinions. He was afraid of the costs.

Then he was denied the HPV vaccine coverage while I'm on my 2nd of 3 doses and it's fully covered and it's a ridiculous $500 a dose that probably costs less than $10 to make. It's basically a cancer vaccine. You'd think it's cheaper than cancer treatment reguardless. Don't know if it's because he's over the 'recommended age' by a couple years (like the vax magically stops working then) or if because us-foreign-policy. I'm going to have to call and find out WTF the deny-defend-depose was for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Because I only feel financially terrorized by the healthcare industry.

This reminds me of how when Cuba nationalized the fruit companies land, they paid them back what the fruit companies had had the land valued at. That value was much lower than a fair valuation, because it meant the companies would have to pay lower taxes on the land.
Maybe someday in a better world, this case will be used as precedent to persecute capitalists. Could be fun.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Wall to wall coverage over a ghoul being rightfully merked+ an expedited terrorist charge

School shooting yesterday and it’s already old news

The bourgeois keep showing us who are they are and we never learn

[–] [email protected] 18 points 18 hours ago

The only thing keeping Madison’s shooting relevant is this time the shooter’s not a man so people are doing a victory lap in agendaposting.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 20 hours ago

Not to mention the ongoing genocide they're completely ignoring.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 84 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Maury voice "Italians.... you are NOT WHITE"

crowd hollers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

peppino-groovin I’M NOT A CRACKKKA! peppino-groovin

[–] [email protected] 52 points 23 hours ago

crackers dance badly while a man with a comically large moustache runs offstage crying

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

How is shooting one dude terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 116 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

That makes it populism, which is a threat to our Democracy

[–] [email protected] 123 points 23 hours ago

he was rich

[–] [email protected] 81 points 23 hours ago

well it terrified me porky-scared

[–] [email protected] 37 points 20 hours ago

Terrorism is a weird way to say self defence

[–] [email protected] 78 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

that would suggest the rich people are feeling terrorised rn

silver linings i guess

well i hope the jury have been fucked over by health insurance

[–] [email protected] 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They will almost certainly ask them questions about biases regarding health insurance during jury selection and somehow manage to find 12 law-loving, boot-licking people who've never been screwed over by insurance, don't have any negative feelings towards insurance companies because of someone they know being screwed over. I mean it would really be as simple as finding a dozen retired boomers who held union jobs with good benefits all their lives, are retired on cushy amounts of retirement funds, and are absolutely law and order freaks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Defense attorney would have to be the worst of all time to somehow not be able to get one person fucked over by health insurance on a full panel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

So much cope. He's going down. He's going to be convicted. The American legal system serves the bourgeoisie. Impartiality of a jury means not prejudiced against or FOR the perpetrator so they can absolutely get people struck for holding unorthodox opinions and not being totally certain of being able to rule on the facts of the charges without prejudice to any feelings they may have for the victim or defendant and their motives.

At the end you'll probably have some juror anonymously speak to the papers, say they sympathized because they know someone who was fucked over by insurance BUUUT they can't justify murder and they weren't asked to rule on whether the defendant's actions were morally right or wrong but whether they amounted to murder and that they had to find them guilty as a result of the evidence. No one is going to do jury nullification on this, no one but extremely online leftists, judges, and prosecutors know what that even is and most Americans are the most obedient little piggies who will believe the judge when they instruct them they have to rule on the facts of the charges not their opinions. You can bet if someone tries to do jury nullification the judge will grill the fuck out of them, really, really pressure them in a case like this and most people who got that far would crumble and with some grumbling go along with voting guilty at last.

Terrorism charge is just kind of make an example out of him type of thing, good chance they can't make that stick if he has a good legal team but they want to send a message that the state will hit anyone with the full book who dares to do something like this and not everyone will have the types of lawyers to beat such charges.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The prosecution is gonna go ahead with the "south park attack" wherein they point out that all murders are terroism since some people will be terrorized.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 23 hours ago (18 children)

Okay lemme understand it.

"Terrorism" is defined as using violent means to scare or suppress the population.

But what he did made the population happy.

So... shouldn't it be considered that he provided a public service?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

This is the definition of terrorism in the state of new yorks penal law

From this terrible overdesigned website https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/ny-penal-law-490-25-crime-of-terrorism.html

I suspect the prosecutor will try to argue that Luigi attempted to effect a societal change in some way and therefore it's terrorism.

edit: what if they charged him with treason? thinking-about-it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, ...

1.- Does he owe allegiance to the United States? How is that even defined? I don't see how "adoctrinating children to the pledge of alliance" counts, since it's, well, indoctrination, not allegiance.

2.- Did he levy war against them? To my understatement, he is not a sovereign representative and even if such he has not filed a declaration of war.

3.- If not, what enemy of the US did he adhere to? The only reasonable interpretarion I can see here is that he adhered to The People, and thus legally the US State considers The People of the US an enemy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

1.- Does he owe allegiance to the United States? How is that even defined? I don't see how "adoctrinating children to the pledge of alliance" counts, since it's, well, indoctrination, not allegiance.

spongebob-wait Selective Service Act (which he probably did sign up with given men are supposed to when they turn 18, for FASFA and whatnot)

I mean also not to mention the fact he's a citizen - and if a citizen can be (and has been in the past) charged with treason which also uses that language, the argument that 'I don't owe allegiance to the US' kinda falls apart:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

So, does this mean that hate crimes count as terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Hate crimes are the norm, so no it wouldn’t change anything

I hate that I typed that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Only if it's against the rich or the white

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

anti-italian-action *commits second degree homicide

nyc: is-this is this terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

NYC couldn't spot terrorism if it crashed straight into a buulding.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

That's why they needed the second one.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 21 hours ago

Really showing their cards on this one.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago

I’m joining the war on terror marx-war

[–] [email protected] 75 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They charged a white guy with terrorism? He's gonna walk.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"Get out of here, kid. Go be a Family Guy"

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Critical support to the NY DA in intentionally sandbagging the prosecution to let the CEO slayer off rat-salute-2

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is anti-Italian discrimination

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Does this mean he'll be tried as an "enemy combatant" with no rights instead of a criminal?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

CNN was just on before gnashing their teeth at social media having solidarity with Luigi, 5 steps away from yelling out "I am Brian Thompson!"

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago

anti-italian-discrimination All I'm saying is that terrorists are a lot browner than this kid

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