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Serioid question here.... I've been so attached to consoles growing up though it will be a bit of a big change.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago

Instead of paying $70 or whatever the hell for a single game, you can just have it for free instead. Also you still have the option of playing with a controller steering-device

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, to build a computer that's equivalent to a current-gen console there will be an increased cost, but that can be recouped by cheaper (or free pirate-jammin ) games.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eh, sort of. You could spend about $500 today on pc parts, build it yourself, and most games will run just as good if not better. Might require some deals/used parts, but its very doable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

there are some fairly good APU mini PCs for around that price these days aswell, no assembly required!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

Yeah; being able to play the entire backlog of games (including for consoles) going back forever is a big plus.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

imo there's really no reason to own a console unless it's nintendo. PC generally has ports and often they are superior (or superior through mods and fan patches). Plus there's the added benefit of using a pc for stuff outside of gaming which a console can't do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No reason to get a Nintendo console either, unless it's a retro handheld.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

A used new (extremely bad and confusing name) 3ds or 2ds is the best machine there is for ds/3ds games.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The biggest advantage of most consoles is that they don’t have a proper web browser or social media apps or software for doing work or any of the other bullshit that PC has. If you sit down in front of a console you are forced to not do work or doomscroll or whatever. There are too many opportunities for all of that shit to eat away at your free time on a PC.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bro... you have a Mario wonder avatar. Are you a bit biased towards console?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Uh, yes? What does bias even mean in this context and why is it a problem?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I used to be really big on consoles, but the last one I owned was an Xbox 360.

Once I got a PC, I never looked back. There are hardly any console exclusive games anymore, and you don't have to worry about your old games being backwards compatible with a new console. You'll have access to more indie and smaller titles through steam, too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Emulate retro game. You don't need to play Vermintide 2, you need to play Breath Of Fire: Dragon Quarter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

"I like video games"
"And yet you haven't played ChainDive, curious..."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

PC gaming can have some severe frustrations that consoles lack so you'll have to be up for some tinkering if things don't work right. I can list all the pros and cons if you want I'm too lazy to do it atm

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Years ago I had a gaming Pc at the very beginning of the WoW days so I vaguely remember what it was like.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I honestly can't think of a single advantage of consoles besides exclusives... Except for the Switch - to me it has staying power in ways that the others can't touch. First, you get portability built in. Second, despite Nintendo being a heinous company, they focus on the fun factor. It's still an amazing system for hosting a party.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

simply give up gaming and become an adult

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Good point, well made. theory-gary

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

communism no gamez

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Everyone who games should own a laptop or desktop of some kind. Even if its not the latest and greatest, it makes things like mods far easier and allows you to check out all the latest new indie games that might not be available on consoles.

For ~$650 you can probably get around PS5 performance if you build the PC yourself. I mostly play old 360/ps3 era games, so my crappy 8th gen laptop already does the job. If you own a PC already that isn't being used for gaming, try running some older stuff on it. You might be surprised by the performance, and it might be possible to upgrade things.

If you buy everything on steam, you'll most of the time have 0 issue just buying the game, downloading, plugging a controller in and gaming (wired 360, Xbone, and series X controllers work best). If you want to pirate stuff, you might have to tinker, but you'll save a lot of money. Consider also, if you buy a game on steam, you have it forever. You won't have to buy the game again when you build a new pc, unlike with buying a new console.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'd say a steam deck type device is more useful than a gaming laptop unless you are regularly playing games that are very dependent on keyboard and mouse.

Desktop PC is best because it can be upgraded piecemeal and I value low weight and great battery life in a laptop anyway.

It should be mentioned that there are some annoying extra hurdles to playing pirated games on steam deck, though. If you need a portable device and game prices are unrealistic in your region, I could see a gaming laptop being worth it.

Or get used to attaching a keyboard and mouse to the steam deck via a USB hub, because that makes the piracy process easier. Or have a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

For ~$650 you can probably get around PS5 performance if you build the PC yourself. I mostly play old 360/ps3 era games, so my crappy 8th gen laptop already does the job. If you own a PC already that isn't being used for gaming, try running some older stuff on it. You might be surprised by the performance, and it might be possible to upgrade things.

To add to this: you can save a ton by getting a secondhand cpu and gpu from ebay. I used to be worried i'd get worn out or mistreated stuff but then i learned there are a few easy tests you can run for peace of mind, and oftentimes if the thing still works at all then it's 100% fine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Fuck yeah. With a pc you can do work, play pc games, emulators, still have the ability to play with controllers. You can use Linux on it so you can host some servers, possibilities are endless.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

A PC is so much more expensive to get good performance for newer games. Even a low end PC for doing work is more expensive than a console. And the user interfaces for launching games are truly awful and infuriating. Anything from a big studio like EA or Ubisoft will use their own awful launcher. I think first person games are more enjoyable using a keyboard and mouse (supposedly you can do this on consoles too). If you have a lot of "disposable" income it's probably worth it, at least if you also use the computer for other stuff too. But you'll have to sit at a desk to use the desktop to get to the button to launch the game, to do OS updates, install games, etc. so it sucks compared to the ease of use of a console. Another pro is that you can usually install lots of extra storage.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

The cost is quickly offset by all the games being free programming-communism pirate-jammin Also, getting games the correct way generally strips away the launcher nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

You can set a game launcher to automatically start on boot, have it go full screen, and use a controller from across the room to install or start your games. You can also set up automatic OS updates. Once it's configured it's really a non-issue. I also wouldn't say it's "so much more expensive." It certainly can be, but there are decent machines for sale around $800.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

When was it ever worth it to use the consoles instead of a PC within the last two or three decades?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I've seen deals for low spec gaming PCs that cost a little more than a PS5 does now. This is factoring in it's low spec for today's hardware and the PS5 came out in 2020.

They come in ITX cases as well so they're smaller than a regular desktop so you could easily have one at the TV like a dedicated console.

You could set it up to automatically open steam in big picture mode so you get that console experience and the added benefit of all the games you already own ready to download.

The only reason to get a console now is to match the system your friends play online with. Exclusives are becoming less of a concern

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I am a preservationist, so I try to keep things working for as long as I can. I still have a Super Nintendo that works 30 years later as well as games from that era. But sooner or later all of that equipment will fail. With PC games I can at least swap out the hardware and still play the games I enjoyed decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Depend of taste and if the closed environement of consoles fit you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The closed environment of apple is why I go android everytime over apple. And the specs to money value

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Buying apple products is just throwing money away imo

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

From a lense of saving money, yes definitely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pc means a backlog that goes back like 40 years, and will likely be forwards compatible for quite some time.

You miss out on console exclusives, but many of them get ported to PC. The ones that don't, you can often eventually emulate on PC.

I have my PC set up so I can plug it into the TV for couch co-op.

You can also mod pc games.

Consoles haven't been an appealing choice for me for many years.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, if you have the means. Much more versatility, much better graphics, piracy. All good things. Only reason I consider owning a console is for bloodborne and demon souls but also soon as I get a ps4 emulator running on my pc we will be golden. It will happen one day I am sure.

Ultimately it comes down to money, building a pc for gaming is not cheap these days and while some money can be recouped through piracy it is still a fuck ton as an entry fee

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If you're on a budget grab a steam deck and dock. Less than $1000 and you get access to most of the steam library and a linux desktop with the power of a PS3+

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In my experience, yes. Last year I had to upgrade my pc for work, and being able to run everything with higher graphics, more customization, AND being able to pirate any single player game I want has been awesome. Not to mention emulation, better media options, etc. In fact, the only reason I still have my ps5 is because its a 4k bluray player as well, and I haven't gotten an external one for my pc yet.

There's some caveats, like if your friends play games that aren't cross-play, your budget for a pc (if you aren't spending the cash, it might not even look good/run as well as current console gen), and some tech hurdles. Also some console exclusives don't come to PC for a year+, and then might still ship in totally broken states.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got into gaming on a PC. I also have an Xbox, but I found I never use it. Even when I want to play something "consoley" I'll opt for my Steam Deck.

Flat out, PC has more games. A lot of them are probably not worth playing, but they are generally cheaper, and they stick with you through upgrades.

The cost of entry is higher. While you can build a PC for the same cost as a console, the performance ceiling is so much higher, and a decent midrange that will get excellent performance in any modern title will cost more.

I think the biggest benefit of PC is getting to play however you want. You can use any controller, play on a couch, train, or at your desk, upgrade one thing at a time, and online play is free.

Overall I'd say it's a "better" experience, but I'm a techy enthusiast who absolutely can address any problems I encounter, and who's willing to pay more for a nice experience.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

To me the biggest advantage of PC is that it has so many indie games you can't run out of new stuff to play

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You can get yourself a Home Theatre Personal Computer (HTPC) if you want to preserve the console feeling. Get one with a strong integrated or dedicated AMD graphics card and CPU and install a specialized operating system like bazzite.gg which allows you to use Steam's gaming mode overlay similar to a steam deck, note it's not just for games licensed with Steam but emulation and games outside of steam.

Just because you get a PC doesn't mean you become glued to a desk keyboard and mouse combo for the rest of your life.

Or you can just get yourself a Steam Deck directly if you really want and you're not worried about playing any very intensive AAA games with kernel level anticheat rootkits.

Another great part of PCs is that you don't have to pay for networking and multiplayer!!! Micro$$$oft set the standard for forcing you to pay a subscription fee just to play with friends and it is why I will never buy a console from the big three.

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