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[–] [email protected] 114 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Mao: We should literally kill every landlord

Harris: We should fund a first time home buyers grant of $20,000 for pell grant recipients who have owned a small business for 25 years

Vaush: These are literally the same thing

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 days ago

It's really suspect how specific democrats proposals are. It's either "We were in complete control of the government and this is the only concession we could get for giving all of your taxes to the MIC" or "We made this plan up because it applies to nobody".

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Mao is evil and everything he did was evil.

Kamala Harris is good and everything she does is good.

If you like Mao, who is evil, then you should like Harris, who is good.

Harris and Mao actually have really similar policies, which you should be happy about if you like Mao, which you shouldn't.

Being a Liberal must be fucking exhausting.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We've done it. We've finally manufactured and deployed the wrongest man.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

Him going back to this well every election year has to be intentional lol

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

Ian Miles Cheong walked so funny-clown-hammer could run

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The β€œ[historical figure] would’ve supported [modern candidate/movement/policy]” is the most brain dead argument. Obviously, they’re not here to tell us otherwise. But more importantly, despite the iconography being fun, figures like Lenin, Mao, etc were not prophets delivering holy truths from on high. They were just people making the best of their situations and figuring out what worked in the moment. Which is the best we can do, and often that means taking a different tactic than leftists of old. Ironically, playing games of β€œWhat would Lenin do?” is the exact opposite of conceptualizing theory in the modern context because it ties leftist politics to people who had decades of evolving context since their deaths.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (7 children)

For anyone curious about the Harris housing plan: https://nhc.org/the-harris-walz-housing-plan-detailed-serious-and-impactful/

It includes:

Tax breaks for builders

Different tax breaks for builders

Up to $25k for first time home buyers who have not missed rent in the last two years. Also sounds like it might be limited to 1 million buyers a year

Funds for local govt to distribute to non profits/housing services

Deregulation ("cutting red tape and bureaucracy")

Remove tax benefits for corporations that buy single family homes to rent

Some vague "rent control" that isn't

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

who have not missed rent in the last two years

Come the fuck on. What in the hell kind of means tested bullshit is this?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

sounds designed in a laboratory to crush tenant strikes

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Maoist means tested bullshit according to funny-clown-hammer

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

So funneling money to local government jobs stacked with friends and relatives of the DNC? What else is new?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Damn, that's so radical! No wonder everyone's calling her a communist.

Is that really the shit that republicans froth at the mouth over?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really hope this mf catches a bullet come the revolution

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This is some of the absolute dumbest shit I have ever read. What on Earth could Vaush have ever read beyond Wikipedia that led him to this conclusion? biden-leftist

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe in this context he quoted something Marx wrote about supporting "revolutionary parties in Bourgeoisie elections" and either missed the "revolutionary" part or he claimed the Democrats to be revolutionary.

He took a quote about Marx supporting Communists running in Bourgeoisie elections and twisted it to support voting for Bourgeoisie parties.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

and either missed the "revolutionary" part

Lmao agony

or he claimed the Democrats to be revolutionary

LMAO agony-turbo

He took a quote about Marx supporting Communists running in Bourgeoisie elections and twisted it to support voting for Bourgeoisie parties.

Yea, there's no genuine way to read this other than Marx supporting PSL or other actual Leftist parties, surely people have pointed this out, right? Right? agony-limitless

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

Sounds like a fever-dream joker-stare

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're assuming he is being intellectually honest and actually believes this.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The fact that he provided zero quotes to back up his claims about this, given that he positioned himself as having read these figures works thoroughly, says it all.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

"If Mao was alive today" as if Mao lived in 700 BC or someshit, bro he knew what American imperialism was

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lmao "radical"

Her policy proposal is extremely conservative and unlikely to meaningfully change the course of the housing crisis

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

$1,000 tax credit for peasants who don't overthrow their landlords

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

Well, if Kamala Harris wants to lead an uprising against the landlords that will be the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and lead to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the people, then I guess you've actually got to hand it to her.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago

I'm not the biggest fan

So you are a fan, though

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

Too many liberals have trouble contextualizing theory in the modern era. If Hitler, Mussolini, etc, were alive today, they would have been Bernie/Warren staffers, and would have endorsed Biden after Bernie dropped out. You'd know that if you read more than their Wikipedia articles.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

This is like the opposite of great man theory, like sure these dead fucks arnt infallible but goddamn put at least a little respect on their names

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My honest reaction to takes like this is to complete ignore these people, and not post their stupidity even to criticize or make fun of it. People like Vaush are, above all, poeple who make money from engagement. They have no incentive to be truly intellectually honest, and all the incentive on earth to post engagement bait. That's literally their business model, it's what enables them to place food on their table, and what lets them buy their BMW and $600k suburban house.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

Vaush has sent in a silly letter. We shall neither print it nor reply to him.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every time some chud talks about what a dead person would do to support their chud cause, this feels so called for.

https://vlipsy.com/vlip/the-boondocks-huey-throws-a-chair-at-fox-news-host-a5s1ALDX

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

You beat me to it 😞

I don't have one for Mao and Lenin.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

crop your darn images or you will be the next person in the dunk tank

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

Crop workers are on strike

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

This is just a rehash of his old "Lenin would support voting for Biden", where he cherry picks a quote or two and runs with it.

Also, as if Lenin and Mao were fully unique Great People and there no current radical leftist leaders that take similar positions, lol

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

xi-peel but it's contextphobic instead of xi

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I feel theres a certain bloc of leftists who, post-bernie, have been ingesting vast amounts of copium to support dems. instead of taking the difficult route of organizing locally and starting from scratch, these guys decided to call it a day and support Kamala. So lame and sad.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

Deeply unserious say-the-line-bart-2

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Will no one rid me of this turbulent streamer?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This has to be him baiting us

Please god let it be bait

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

It's both

It's bait but he also believes it, at least partially

These are symptoms of late stage terminal-onlineness-associated irony poisoning

Occupational hazard involved in being a liberal debate pervert

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

This should be punishable by death

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

"Kautsky!!!!" lenin-rage

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

stalin would have personally led a gang war so big that cascadia would be a country and vaush thinks the old man would have been a staffer

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Streamers should not be allowed the same rights as full humans.

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