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For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.

I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.

No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (2 children)

prediction: a fascist will win this election

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My final take on the election: We will be in the same country, in the same basic decline, arming the same genocide. The captain's hat can change heads, but it's the same sinking ship.

I think Kamala will win. If she doesn't, I'm going to rip on democrats super hard and pretend it was my doing, obviously, but when someone described her as representing the "Starmer-ization" of American politics that kind of clicked with me. Executing increasingly fascist policies with a liberal veneer seems preferable to capitalists compared to a more explicitly racialized and inwardly violent fascism.

I think blue facism gives them the dual advantage of pacifying the "soft-left" (small-L liberals, "progressives", SuccDumms -- a huge chunk of the politically active non-chuds) while pissing off the chuds so they swing extra hard to the right when they next come to power, which will in turn be normalized by the democrats as they perpetually "chase the dragon" of moderate republican voters and increasingly adopt right-wing framing of issues.

I think this allows the capitalists to create an environment increasingly hostile towards leftism, but without rocking the boat enough to trigger a meaningful antifascist backlash. Basically capitalism's own "boil the frog" approach.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Remember last election when, in the final days, biden promised a huge amount of student debt relief (he lied)

At least we got a fraction of the covid stimulus he promised (then he killed like a million people by ending lockdowns)

Now we get NOTHING, not a promise for climate change action, or healthcare reform, or the promise to do less genocide and war. Not even a promise to take executive action on women's rights (the senate isn't going to pass a bill, and I feel like everyone secretly knows this). Shit's bleak in burgerland

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Interesting. Voters just didn't show up for Kamala. Biden at 81million would have been enough to win this.

THEY'RE SAYING IT. THEY'RE SAYING BIDEN WOULD HAVE WON

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wonder how that Cheney endorsement is feeling right now lol. Fucking genocidal ghouls

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago (6 children)

HARRIS WILL NOT SPEAK TONIGHT

This is the 2ND TIME IN A ROW WE ARE ROBBED OF LIBERAL WALK OF SHAME AND CONCESSION SPEECH

BULLSHIT

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I MAY not be dale earnhardt but I slammed into the FUCKING WALL because I couldn't turn left

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (8 children)

It would be so easy to win a national election against Trump. Watch. "I, your democratic candidate, pledge to fight the supermarket, pharmacological, and healthcare cartels that are artificially inflating consumer prices for their own gain."

But democrats don't want to do that.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago

Ukraine is obviously fucked but so is Taiwan. We aren't gonna do shit if China decides now is the time.

president Xi, commence the invasion when ready

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My lib gf is gonna break up with me because of my anti-Kamala rants

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

democrats really lost against one of the least intelligent or likeable people on the planet. twice.

really incredible stuff

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think she was one George W. Bush endorsement away from a total Reagan-style victory.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

On the one hand I want Kamala to win so my parents and brother have an absolute “the communists have taken over” meltdown all the way to January.

On the other hand, I want Trump to win so the libs can realize how co-signing genocide is a failing ideology.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago

so the libs can realize

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (7 children)

A trans woman called into C-Span to say vote for Claudia and Free Palestine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhSz4PusLhg&t=6166s

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My job has me stuck in a room with Libs so I kinda hope Trump takes MI by 1% because Jill Stein has %2 angry-place

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this idea a candidate cannot fail, only be failed, is so fucking childish. you have to convince people to support your position, via policies you argue for in an attempt to win people over. you can only fail because either A) those voters were never going to won over to that position, or B) you made a shit argument for the policies. that's the supposed nature of how this whole liberal democracy thing is supposed to work on paper. remember that? the whole democracy thing these libs keep screaming needs to be saved? the principle of democracy is convincing voters to vote for you, not brow beat them into doing so

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

we will never give in to the backstabbing, the handwringing, the mudslinging. I will ALWAYS stand with MY president. I'm #writinginbiden

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If Kamala loses I cannot wait to tell liberals “well you shouldn’t have forced Biden out of the race” lol

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Being totally jokerfied on this election is liberating antelope-popcorn

Despite the recent polls, I still think Trump is gonna win. In fact, I will lock that in as my final prediction.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (16 children)

I see a lot of people here saying they dread getting blamed for Kamala losing, but isn't that the whole point? Isn't that what we wanna do anyway? Yeah, she lost our vote by supporting genocide and it sure looks like those votes would've come in handy. If the dems want to win elections they have to deal with the left as an organized voting block that's ready to call their bluff. If it's actually the left's fault she loses, that just means we're the ones they needed to listen to. Take it in stride.

If anything, the worst outcome here is that they conclude that moderate Republicans didn't vote for Kamala in enough numbers so the next time they should try going farther to the right. Many of y'all would actually rather see the blame get put on those people without seeing that the "blame" in this situation is actually a positive thing to get, because it gives you the stage to make demands if they want your vote next time around. Now's probably the time to preempt that and say that genocide is why she didn't get our votes and our votes could've swung it in her favor.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the first trans representative is a huge neolib lmfaoooooo agony-deep

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Blue January 6 incoming. Make insurrections after every presidential election an American tradition timmy-pray

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)

no matter what happens, truly the most thrown election cycle of all time. world-record sandbagging on both tickets. comedy of errors.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Kamala lost Dearborn which has a muslim majority. they cosigning Cheney and parading Liz cheney IN MI saying "hey I know these wars killing you in large numbers but my opponent will kill you faster." i-cant

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

last year i was talking to my cousin and they told a story about their great uncle who was a about 7 years old in 1920 for the election and his dad took him down to the polling station to see the results. this was back in the day, you understand, and you'd have to go look at a chalkboard to see the tally. anyway my great uncle twice removed or whatever he is, he looked at the tally and then looked down at the kid and said, "they didn't count my vote."

"how do you know, dad?"

"because it says there's 0 votes for eugene debs!"

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (7 children)

evo on the election

Elections are being held in the United States today, but there is no democracy in that country, the winner does not govern, the transnationals govern. Whoever wins, they will continue with the Monroe Doctrine, the Manifest Destiny and, above all, the so-called National Security Doctrine. The peoples of the world, especially the new generations, must identify that the first enemy of humanity is imperialism.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (7 children)

holy fuck 200k likes, lotta scratched libs

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one can save the democratic party from themselves. They earned this result. They worked as hard as they could for it.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From dropping out before the 2020 primaries began, to losing against a once-beaten septuagenarian when there were dozens of popular issues you could have championed, Harris truly embodies going from failure to failure and just causing massive problems wherever you go. She's just like me, fr fr. except for all the support of genocide and starvation and murder and bigotry and all that.

A truly inspiring figure in American politics.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Joe Biden still owes me $2000. I'm not going to forget that just because he's unemployed.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago

kamala-coconut-tree I’m not speaking

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Cool. I was the lone vote for Claudia De La Cruz in my county.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only 1461 days until the 2028 US presidential election, the most important event in the history of the universe.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wierd that "build the wall, we're gonna deport more people than Trump" didn't help Kamala with Latino voters.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

REMINDER!!!!

if you're in line to vote, STAY IN LINE!! even if the election is over, they HAVE to let you vote!!

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Kamala just said not to support parties but to support the Constitution and God. lmfao

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (5 children)

A comment I made six months ago

The blame list in order of who they'll blame most

  1. Palestinians in general/Arabs in Michigan

  2. The "left"

  3. Black people

  4. "Traitorous" Queer people

  5. "Traitorous" Hispanics

  6. Poor whites "fooled" by Drumpf

  7. The pundit class for daring to question Biden's competency

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Voting 3rd party is the funniest thing you can do to piss liberals off. PSL

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