are westerners just all latently suicidal now, just craving an abrupt thermonuclear end to all these bullshit jobs? what else could be our excuse?
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In the west for everyone in the PMC and upwards consequences do not exist and have never existed their entire lives. Bad stuff only happens to people far away or to poors that don't work hard enough. Most of them genuinely do not think that it will affect them.
Talked to a Pete buttigieg supporter yesterday and he said he wishes Biden would send troops into Ukraine
Should have asked for his Reddit account
Ask him if he would enlist
The West wants civilizational self-immolation.
The guilt of genocide can’t be pushed down anymore. Each subsequent war is a way to redeem themselves. It’s a form of long term self harm
Send Hunka. He can go and die there alongside Azov Nazis like he deserves.
They've already got him in some warehouse, sitting in a crate and covered in cosmoline
Speedrunning WW3 I see
The world wars were relatively brief as wars go. In and out. Four year adventure.
Compare that to Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. This feels more like we're setting up another 30 Years War.
I don’t really think so. The level of brutality world wars pretty much always necessitate is the reason they are short. You cannot sacrifice that amount of people forever.
Idk if I'd discount the brutality of Vietnam, between the cluster bombs and zippo raids and land mines and Agent Orange defoliant.
That war was about as brutal as it was possible to get, shy of nuclear strikes.
I think the WWs were, perhaps, more brief because of their scale. Very hard to maintain two fronts across central Europe for any length of time.
Vietnam was different for sure, but it just isn’t the same situation as a world war where multiple modernized military forces are going at it with the most cutting edge technology and tactics available. I think another reason world wars don’t last as long is because they are wars that are much harder to extract profit out of too. You have to sink an insane amount of resources into it at the cost of pretty much all other economic activity.
Vietnam was only brutal for one side
Wtf are "noncombat troops"?
Troops in an """"""advisory"""""" and """"""training"""""" role stationed close to the front line who could of course defend themselves in the event of attack,
Military Advisors 
Troops not involved in combat? Death to Canada, but it's a perfectly plausible thing to say. Medics, engineers, etc.
Our superior recon tells Ukraine where to shoot boom boom we supply them with. Therefore bullshit we didn't "pull the trigger".
They’re going do the same shit as the reddit volunteers, where every 
mercenary was claiming to be a “medic.”
Plausible deniability
little green men
a convenient excuse to escalate
Sacrificial lambs perhaps
We should not for a second believe "oh we're not going to send anybody who'd directly harm anyone," but I believe most military personnel do not directly fight. Support/logistics needs are immense.
Combat troops with extra steps
May as well be the Attack Minister at this point
I play my minister faceup in attack position
Do you want to hollow out the core of your professional military? Because this is how you hollow out the core of your professional military.
Almost all NATO countries are struggling to meet recruiting quotas. Telling an undecided teen that he might be sent to die in Ukraine even if he lands a non combat role is recruiting suicide.
NATO Special forces confirmed to be operating as of two years ago as per NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/25/us/politics/commandos-russia-ukraine.html
They're gonna have to hurry up lol
Not to be a tankie or whatever but I'm gonna be pretty peeved if NATO's cope at losing escalates this shit into nuclear war. Threads did not make that look fun, like, at all.
damn i didnt think facebook's twitter clone was that bleak
Pair with Come and See for a very offputting movie night
CIA agents, NED bozos, and American mercenaries were already there training/arming Ukraine two years ago, so I'm frankly surprised there wasn't already noncombat troops there.
Why is that Russian soldier grabbing a dead guy’s crotch.
Cum retrieval.
img caption: "Ukrainian National guard soldiers simulate the evacuation of a wounded comrade and provide first medical help during tactical training at a shooting range in Kharkiv region, Ukraine, on Feb. 29, 2024. "
Something something Vietnam.
The west hasn't suffered negative consequences from war in recent memory. Maybe they'd be less belligerent if they did
I feel France is leading the charge because you need a nuclear armed country to deter tactical nuclear weapons which are likely part of Russia's strategy. However, France can't match Russia on tactical nukes, they would need to escalate with nuclear cruise missiles and submarine MIRVs
I don't think they are necessarily manufacturing consent, I think it's posturing to see if Russia won't nuke them for getting involved.