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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 months ago

I will eat the toe meat off a cow that was fed chicken shit its whole life but I draw the line at cells in a sterile environment.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I can already see 20 years in the future, when China is doing the fucking best lab-grown steak the human specie have ever taste, supplying the world with cheap, nutritious and sustainable meat while the US cry about how they are "overflowing" the market.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Don't hold your breath. Lab grown meat is a pipedream that serves only venture capitalists. Just eat fucking beans.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

You can already eat lab grown meat in certain restaurants in China. Do you really think it’s going to stop being developed on? This is the same society that made caviar available to the masses.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thesis: Lab-grown meat

Antithesis: Beans

Synthesis: Lab-grown beans bean

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

they have actually been working on lab grown plants. i read a research paper about using it to make only the edible and good part of the avocado, or various plants that we largely dont eat but eat small parts of them, it could be way more efficient to grow certain plants like that in a lab

https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/20/mit-develops-method-for-lab-grown-plants-that-eventually-lead-to-alternatives-to-forestry-and-farming/

this article talks about using it for wood

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

finally we can have ethical vegan food

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Unironically. Less people in the fields, and hopefully less people in factories once automation is better, means a closer step to actual veganism. I’m just hoping that the automation doesn’t mean a lower quality of life for workers who will inevitably get laid off.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (11 children)

people keep saying this but the meat industry is clearly very terrified of this and is lobbying politicians. i feel like that alone shows there is potential, beyond the advancements china uses to make egg whites and pig skins

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Shit don’t make any sense. Stuff like weed and meat alternatives are a profitable and emerging market. Why don’t these people pivot towards it or at the very least make it easier for them to exploit the market once shit hits the fan and all the cows disappear?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Requires investment in new infrastructure and dealing with new regulations. They want profit now not tomorrow

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

In the west maybe, but the technology is emergent and there's capacity for development, it's not like it's fusion tech

East Asia seems to be the place it will overcome the engineering hurdles and go to scale

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I understand your doubt, it's not unfounded. It is informed by the status quo of capitalists overselling and underdelivering on every single innovation or technology.

However, I believe it's not a pipe dream to serve venture capitalists, it's a pipe dream because of venture capitalists. Think what we can achieve if we didn't have to cut corners to please shareholders, if every technique and breakthrough wasn't trademarked or patented so they may be improved by others, if the end goal is to service the people and not make very few people very wealthy.

It is a pipe dream because they are trying to get you to fund a ladder they can use to climb to wealth and pull up after them.

But it is possible, and if anything, it's more realistic than converting the average person to go vegan, esp with the reactionaries that will go out of their way to consume more meat out of spite.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

They already have the best lab grown meat, theyre using it mostly for egg whites and pig skins right now (both are used a lot in traditional chinese cooking, egg whites in particular look very promising because they have their own 'immune' defense re: lysozymes, ovomucoids, innate ph balancers, etc.), though a lot of restaurants in hong kong serve chicken

lysozymes can also be found in milk, and there has been some interesting developments in lab grown milk production using the same process that makes insulin. this would be useful for human milk too for mothers that have breastfeeding issues, human milk in general is very unique and has extremely high lysozyme counts which makes it a good candidate. personally i really hope lab grown dairy takes off, a lot of vegan cheeses taste like ass

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you provide sources? I thought lab-grown albumen was early in development, and that lab-grown chicken was extremely expensive but being used by like a single restaurant in Singapore.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Yet another meat wave.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Extremely rare China L, just eat plants.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Genocide John getting furious at the idea of any creature not dying.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hoping the pain is just a symptom of a serious underlying condition

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Comrade Aneurysm, take my energy

Comrade Bloodclot, take my energy

Comrade Ischemia, take my energy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Comrade tripping and hitting his head on a toilet bowl in a gas station washroom.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

that slop

I won't eat this pink slime, I only eat pink slime from the finest Tyson slaughterhouses

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pretty bold for an american to talk shit about slop at all

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

It's just not the same if the animal hasn't lived a life of suffering.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago

pains me deeply

lmao no it doesn't, shut up you fuckin loser

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The carnists are never okay.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

My sustenance requires torture πŸ™„

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Is it a coincidence that Manchin is retiring and this guy is coming out of pocket? Looks like we found our new rotating villain

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You WILL live in an apartment. You WILL eat the lab grown meat. You WILL put your kid on puberty blockers. You WILL take public transit. You WILL help raise the creche. stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

fidel-salute good lord do I want to force people to do these things

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

No vatmeat ever gave me prion disease

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I want lab grown meat. It's been a dream of mine ever since I was a kid to taste mammoth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Fuck that let's have celebrity cuts from DNA cloning

Give me a Biden burger with extra Jack cheese

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Buying Taylor Swifts semen smoothie at a McDonald's

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They've been talking about lab-grown chicken nuggets hitting store shelves for a couple years now.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They say this and then they bleach your chicken

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

just a small puff of ammonia sir

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just register as a Republican fucking goul. Tech is also probably how we are going to 3D print viable organs so we don't need to worry about waitlists for transplants and shit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Democrats are sprinting to the right, and people like fetterman provide cover

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eh it's fine. If lab grown meat ever becomes practical then China will just do it and leave us behind, and all I can say is good luck!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

if they pull of cheap abundant energy they will probalbly pull it off. just need to dump super inefficient (compared to an animal) energy into growing feedstock and running bio-reactors

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

”The slop I serve my children is made by real animal abusing Americans!”

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

I’m just thinking about how slaughterhouse workers literally get PTSD from their jobs, rn.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Capitalism breeds innovation Ethical lab meat and TikTok?

NO NOT LIKE THAT

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These people realize that the β€œAmerican” ranchers and farmers are illegal migrants and children and sometimes illegal migrant children, right? They don’t actually think every American farmer is the one from the honest work meme, right? They want their meat and eat it too lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The farms, the slaughterhouses, the packing plants - our whole agricultural industry is propped up by subsidies and undocumented labor, if it were Americans making minimum wage and selling at market rate a single burger would be like $30.

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